can be used for spraying or brushing ,sorry. However, airless sprayers do not provide the same quality of finish that you can achieve with an HVLP Spray Gun. Put on a respirator and then turn on the compressor. The cup on a siphon gun is located below the nozzle, and pressurized ⦠I've done this with very good results. I painted the bottom of one of my trailers and it worked fine on the steel framing, but will it work on flat smooth body panels? It is mandatory for certain specialized applications such as water immersion and Spraying Rust-o-leum in a HVLP gun Spraying Rust-o-leum in a HVLP gun. I've also used enamel reducer with the lower priced "equipment enamels" sold at Fleet Farm with good results. If you're familiar with your gun, you should have no problems. The spraying gun is well fixed and will reduce ⦠However, with some understanding you can successfully do so. Sign up for a new account in our community. I was wondering what kind of compressor do I need for a hvlp spray gun. Itâs a gun-type handheld paint sprayer which releases paint in spray form. Although there are many sprayers on the market today, many professionals still use a version of the original siphon feed gun developed by Joe Binks for the 1896 Chicago World Fair. Fill the cup of a siphon gun about 3/4 full of acrylic enamel and screw the cup onto the gun. This is volume of air pressure per cubic foot. June 28, 2006. That way you can use slow, medium, or fast depending on the weather conditions. Add the water and el, T WITH HVLP ⦠If you donât enjoy brushing on latex paint, or if you are not able to achieve the level of quality in your painting that youâd like, then you should try spraying latex paint with HVLP equipment. Usually the instructions that come with the gun will have a handy spray gun tip size chart too. Most HVLP spray guns will use 10-14 scfm at 40 psi. It's easy! It may not be as tough in salt/moisture environments, like POR 15, Rust Bullit,Zero Rust, but for our purposes they won't be sitting in moisture and salt. The latex enamel may be difficult to work with. Behr paints are a high-quality paint best suited for airless paint sprayers. In some applications, the painter finds that "spraying" the paint is the best method. High quality acrylic urethane paints should be sprayed with high volume, high pressure compressed air driven sprayers. The instructions on the Rustoleum can say to use mineral spirits to thin for spraying. learn that it worked well for you. I have found that if you thin with acetone in lieu of mineral spirits the Rustoleum not only flows much better, it dries more completely and much quicker. Reactions: [email protected] ... a sprayer to get too much on. Fill the paint cup with enamel paint and attach to the HVLP Spray Gun. I have to date been successful in doctoring Rustoleum paints, with no ill effects. Fluid tip sizes for HVLP should be as follows: - Dye Stains 1.1mm - Wood Stains 1.1mm to 1.3mm - Top Coats 1.1mm to 1.3mm - Milk Paint 1.8mm Contact your supplier to verify proper tip sizes for your specific equipment. I promise not to drive these gas pumps over 30 MPH, so there is no fear of the paint blowing off. When spraying clear coat I like to up the pressure 2-3 psi for a little more atomization and better flow out. Flowed out beautifully. I do find Rustoleum very chemical resistant, a super corrosion resistant product to boot...........Fred, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. He goes on to focus on HVLP for spraying acrylic paint. Probably not ideal, and perhaps why it stayed soft for longer than I expected, but no problems otherwise. Recommended Spray Tips for Wood Stains and Top Coats. If you are paing a vehicle, you can let this paint cure about a month, then color sand, and buff polish to a brilliant shine. Since every sprayer is different, the only advice I can give is to TRY IT! Aerosol paint cans are convenient for sure....BUT Rustoleum in bulk is pretty cheap! 1 tack coat, wait for paint to flash, depending on temp, humidity, then followed by 2 medium coats of paint. Now instead of holding the paint gun up to 18 inches from the panel these new guns have you spraying at 6-8 inches. The viscosity (thickness) of latex paint makes it hard for spray guns to fully atomize the paint, meaning that it's difficult with a lower pressure turbine unit to break the material up into small enough particles to get an ultra smooth surface. If you are hesitant, you could alway buy, an automotive acyrlic enamel such as Dupont, PPG, or even a Urethane based topcoat. Sign up now to receive exclusive email deals, industry news, and new product releases.*. Anybody had any experience with this? With synthetic enamel, you basically mix reducer with your paint and thatâs it. Reseal the cap, and then adjust the pressure of the spray gun to 20 pounds per square inch. I use mostly 100% acrylic latex paints for high quality exterior signs (usually applied with roller/brush). Ron Taylor first started using acrylic trim paints in 2004, and is now an authority in the UK on the application of water-based paints with brush, roller and spray. Of course, it hasn't been exposed to the road yet, so maybe it'll peel off in sheets. Post in the forum instead. Step 1. Test the spray pattern on a scrap piece of wood or metal. I bought a quart of acrylic enamel reducer from the local auto paint store. That mixture information is exactly what I wanted and to. I was amazed at how well they turned out, especially for being my first time spraying anything. I spray Rustoleum occasionally out of my primer gun. Reply. The last time I used Rust-O-leum for a brushing project, I put it away and got some Benj. By special55, October 12, 2009 in Technical. ... Also consider going over latex or acrylic with a clear WB lacquer (call the manufacturer for compatibility and surface preparation). I think you will be surprised how nice, the Rusto paint can look, if sprayed with the right ingredients mixed in.........Fred. Hi, I have some previously painted in dark brown acrylic, wood plantation shutters including frames donated to me, from a neighbor who has the same model home as myself.
You might want to check out using Penetrol paint conditioner. Spraying SW Proclassic acrylic latex. Acrylic enamel is a harder paint in general because you actually add activator to your mixture. Rustoleum or any hardware store enamel equivalent can be souped up , by adding the Automotive enamel reducers, hardener/gloss agents. Unless you are spraying acrylic enamel from a can, you will need an air spray gun and a compressor to apply it -- it is not a job for an airless sprayer. Jump to Latest Follow ... MF's got wiped out by oil base enamel. Paul Dobbin, This mix sprays out real nice, lays down well. Always strain material through a medium to fine mesh filter before spraying. All rights reserved. Advice for spraying Engine enamel with HVLP gun Advice for spraying Engine enamel with HVLP gun. Anybody had any experience with this? Now let’s get into the reason you all clicked to read this article, how to properly set up the spray gun to achieve the best possible paint job. The spray gun I will be using as an example will be our Concours Pro paint gun, which is pictured above. The first thing I will talk about setting up will be air pressure since this can and should be done before you even put paint into your gun. Each spray gun will have three controls and their locations may differ slightly. Check your instructions to ensure you move the correct ones. Since that is out of the way let’s show you where on the Eastwood Concours Pro you can find the air control. Choose one that has a hopper size large enough for the job that you are interested in doing. I have also used the rusty metal priemr cut with enamel reducer as a substrate base pirmer, once cured about a week, I have used body fillers, fibreglass, 2 k urethane primer/surfacers all with no issue, this rusty metal primer, has great adhesion, corrosion reistance, filling qualites, sands nice when fully cured too...........Fred. Since Rustoleum does not market a reducer I contacted the Rustoleum tech, he recomended acetone.I have been using Rustoleum for years to spray frames etc. While it is not a BC/CC, Urethane, or Auto Acrylic enamel, it is a tough paint, and can be very durable. This paint when mixed correctly as I have prescribed on my other post not only sprays well with a gravity feed hvlp gun 1.3, 1.4 ,1.5 tips, will be very glossy on a smooth well prepped surface, should come out looking awesome. I've sprayed alot of Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer using standard enamel reducer from the auto parts store. Instead use 100% acrylic enamel paint. For spraying a whole car, a 1.3mm tip is recommended. I have never sprayed with my HVLP. I thought this thread was about spraying with an HVLP, not brushing??? By HLVP or High-volume, low-pressure gun can be purchased from a number of retailers including Loweâs, Harbor Freight, or Grainger. It features a control trigger that will allow you to spray in pattern up to 10 inches. Iâm getting more confident in using my spray gun and since Iâve used Polycrylic in an HVLP sprayer, I cannot wait to try other waterborne wood finishes in ⦠I painted my torque tube with high-gloss black Rustoleum epoxy and thinned it about 15%. The first thing that will catch your attention is the sturdy construction. Be sure to check your tip size so it is correct for a slightly thicker material. This next image is of the location of the fluid control. This changes how far the fluid needle can be pulled back ultimately controlling how much paint can come out when you pull the trigger. If you tighten this all the way in you’ll actually be able to make it so you cannot even pull the trigger far enough to let any paint out. The recommended setting for this is a tricky one as it is more about personally preference. Most painters, including myself, recommend leaving the fluid control all the way open to allow the maximum amount through to create a nice wet coat each time you spray. Then, if you need just a mist of paint to somewhere such as a tight corner, you can just slightly pull back on the trigger to let a little bit of paint back. Have you ever wondered what it would take to paint your own car? Save yourself tons of money by doing the paint job at home. For years and years the go to standard spray gun was a Binks siphon fed gun. These spray guns were best used with lacquer based paint while holding huge distances from the panels to apply the paint.  As paint technology increased so did the demand for new paint guns to lay smooth glass like finishes. Born were first HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure). These paint guns increased the efficiency of how much paint actually made it to the panel saving you from wasted paint. Now instead of holding the paint gun up to 18 inches from the panel these new guns have you spraying at 6-8 inches. When painters "enamel" trim what exactly is the product they spray? Thanks. Last year we remodeled our kitchen an I shot the cabinet doors with SW Pro Classic Alkyd Acrylic using the $100 HVLP turbine from Harbor Freight. Eventually I'll try the HVLP gig.....for fussier jobs. HVLP Spraying using an Acrylic paint - viscosity question. Step 4 Apply all primer and finish coats in a dust free, properly ventilated paint booth. While it is not a BC/CC, Urethane, or Auto Acrylic enamel, it is a tough paint, and can be very durable. This is more my choice than anything else. Here's a question that requires the do-it-your-self experience. Both systems can be sprayed with HVLP or LVLP spray guns and we will talk about this in other posts and show you full length videos inside VIP. I have always used a regular old fashioned spray gun with a quart can, or hooked it to a 3 gal pot for bigger jobs. HVLP systems are not designed to spray heavier bodied latex paint. Latex enamel paints are highly durable, easy to clean, eco-friendly paints that dry quickly, with a high gloss finish. I have a cabinet that I need to spray enamel to match a customers trim in there house. It's time to redo my 3 gas pumps in the yard and I thought I'd change brands to GULF and paint them with orange Rust-o-leum in my HVLP gun. These sprayers should have at least a 60 gallon compressed air tank in order to maintain high velocity air at regulated pressure. I save the HVLP for more visible work. The figure on the left shows where the air control is located. I always recommend leaving this control wide open for 99% of your painting. This way you can get a much more accurate pressure by attaching a pressure regulator as you see pictured to the right of the spray gun. This happens to be our Concours Pro Air Regulator. With this attached right at the base of your gun you can pull the trigger as if you were painting all the way back and start making adjustments to the regulator. Two brands are ake sure that the paint is at room temperature as the viscosity increases when itâs cold. You ca always add another coat, but dealing with drips and sags defeats the purpose of spraying, which is efficiency and quality of finish. For spraying clear coats on small parts and projects, we recommend a 1.2mm tip. Spraying Latex and Benjamin Moore Advance with Fuji HVLP « on: July 28, 2013, 07:54 AM » I just bought a brand new Fuji Mini Mite 4 with a gravity fed gun and wanted some input from those of you that have had success spraying it. Setting the air pressure to about 28-29 PSI for clear will ensure you having great flow out. How to Apply Behr Paint with a Sprayer. I was just trying to apply color rather than protection, but it was my first time with the spray gun, so it wasn't perfect. My problem was that it took a long time to cure, so when I set it back on the jackstands with rags on them, the paint moved around a little, leaving marks. Powered by Invision Community. Step 2 The to top that off color sanding, and polishing with Meguires. Open the paint reservoir cap of the HVLP spray gun and pour the paint mix in. These paint guns increased the efficiency of how much paint actually made it to the panel saving you from wasted paint. Recently, I began using Benjamin Moore's Aura exterior acrylic latex paint, and, overall, love it, but would like to spray it with my HVLP on moderate sized carved panels to avoid brush marks. Share Followers 0. On the other hand, this product weighs only 11.2 pounds for easy portability. The final control which is very important will be the fan control. The “fan” is how long the shape of spray pattern is.  If you spray a test on a scrap piece of paper or cardboard for a split second you will want to see the paint resemble a football shape. The fan control allows you to change the shape from a football all the way down to a dot.  For over all paint jobs such as an exterior of a vehicle we recommend taking your fan control and opening it all the way up and then turn it back down an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn. This will achieve the best atomization of your paint to give you the best possible results. Hopefully this will allow you to comfortably understand the settings of your new spray gun. If you’re still hungry for some more information we have an excellent video with Kevin Tetz which goes even further in depth to make sure your next paint job turns out right and makes people say WOW.  Click here to jump on over to our YouTube channel to see Kevin in action. 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