Thanks! A > silencer is little more than a series of baffles similar to a car's muffler > and while they do a fair job at reducing the report of a firearm, do nothing I make home loads for just about all my rifles. For years H4895 has been the top choice of cast bullet shooters. How does a 243 Winchester, for instance, compare against the kick of a 270 Winchester or 300 Winchester Magnum? Could you share your recipes on what has worked? this is a powerful and flat shooting(3100 fps) tack driving load. He didn't care for it much. 22 Caliber 55 Grain 6mm 55 Grain Different dimensions because of the larger barrel on the .243 of course, but otherwise the "same" bullet. The velocity was right at 2500 fps and he dropped a doe at ~ 75/80 yrs with no problems. I've got a youth model .243 here for my oldest boy, and I would like to have him start shooting low recoil loads for deer hunting. .243 light recoil loads for youth - deer hunting, Re: .243 light recoil loads for youth - deer hunting. Nice light load and shoots bugholes. 30 grains of RL 7, with ANY bullet weight you desire... Just went through this yesterday for the son of a friend. load, the FRE was 22 percent less than that of a standard full-power load. Sent my 10 yr old Grandson out with 87gr Hornady SP over 26gr of H4895 in a H&R 243 last year. It's going to tough to lighten the recoil on a 243, given that there isn't much to begin with. 95 gr sst with max load of h4831sc. This is with her Ruger American Compact which is a really light gun and she's really sensitive to recoil, but she shot about 50 of those loads last weekend and said it didn't bother her at all. > > Dan > > Dan, > > I do believe that you are talking about a muzzle brake, not a silencer. It isn’t listed in my book but it’s a couple editions old , I really don’t feel like dropping $30 to see. Three shots were about 1.25" at 100 yards, recoil is about 1/2 of a factory load if even that. Would any powder at a light load weight reduce recoil or are certain powders just lower recoil? We're getting killer accuracy with the 87gr Berger and H4350 in my grandson's Ruger Mk II stainless. View Profile View Forum Posts Registered User Join Date Jul 2005 Location Riverton,WY Posts 27. If anyone has tried this what was your expeience with it? The end result is a high-performance bullet optimized to provide the on-game results you've come to expect from Remington Ammunition with just half the felt recoil. Reduce recoil ammo claims to maintain hunting effectiveness out to 200 yards while reducing recoil by roughly half. Farmboy. As a tactical round, the .243 is one of the best, offering excellent ballistics, moderate recoil, and stone-reliable feeding from a detachable magazine. with a 95 grain ballistic tip.. about 2700 fps.. This is where things get a bit more interesting. If the stock fits well, the felt recoil will diminish as well. https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf, https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/trail-boss-reduced-loads-r_p.pdf. In proper hands, the .243 can take elk and caribou. Recoil reduced ammo loads If you are looking for ways to reduce recoil without spending a bunch of money on a new rifle, you may want to switch to a managed-recoil cartridge. For the 243 I just looked at my IMR loading data and it shows 25.0 grains of IMR 4227 with an 80 grain bullet gets 2,695 fps. The .243 Winchester’s light recoil is a plus for shooters who are susceptible to recoil sensitivity. I've got a youth model .243 here for my oldest boy, and I would like to have him start shooting low recoil loads for deer hunting. Consider about 33g of H4895 with either the 85 tsx or the 95 NBT. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. The .30-30 fires a heavier bullet than the .243, but at a lower velocity and with a smaller powder volume, so they both produce similar recoil numbers if rifle weight is constant. H4895 powder was chosen because it is the slowest burning propellant that ignites uniformly in reduced charges. Recoil will be dependent on the weight of the rifle and the .243 load you select. Could you share your recipes on what has worked? Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Barrel is short, 22 inches. With hunting season drawing near I thought that I would share a reduced load for the .243 Win. For deer at typical Michigan ranges, a .243 crushes deer. The 4895/partition load is mild recoil and plenty accurate though shoots much higher POI than practice load so need to play around some more as would like them to be close. I'd just go -3 grains from the normal loads you are using. Any of the managed recoil loads in … For a .243 it kicks pretty good. So I bought a box of hornadys lite recoil and she can handle them. Hodgdon receives a lot of calls from reloaders looking for light recoil, subsonic, youth hunting, or informal target and plinking loads. He has become quite a marksman with it with the light recoil. The .30-30 load showed only a 13 percent recoil reduction, but the .30-30 cartridge doesn’t kick very hard to start with. I just loaded some for my buddies kid, he has a NEF superlight youth gun in 243, extremly light right, when the rifle went off I could keep the crosshair on target through the recoil. Shooting 80-100 grain hunting bullets, a .243 will anchor a buck with authority. Zero recoil, reduced report and accurate. All factors being equal, a light bullet produces less recoil and range then a heavier slug. Would like to stay in the 100 grain bullet range. I've got 70 grain NBT, 85 grain TSX, 87 grain VMax, and 96 grain NBT bullets on hand. For this type of shooting, loads are reduced even more than the hunting loads listed here. All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! When he shoots full power loads he says he can feel the difference and is not interested in doing lots in a row. I use the Sierra gameking 85 hpbt and the starting load of h414/win 760 which is about 40 grains. Driving the light 55-75 grain pills, the .243 provides the flat trajectory and high impact energy varminters love. Thanks, Can anyone tell me load data on the 95 gr sst, can I use the h4895? Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Jpron, Dec 29, 2018. As for the .243 Win. Some load a .22-250 Remington or .243 Winchester down to .223 levels, not only saving per-round costs but also reducing recoil and extending barrel life. I'm looking for a light .243 load for my son. My daughter at the age of 14 and a weight of maybe 85 pounds had no trouble with recoil from her Remington .243. This analysis indicates the Hornady Custom Lite reduced recoil .243 Winchester load should only be used for training, plinking and hunting Class 1 game. A good example is a 110 gr bullet meant for a 30 carbine. So I bought a box of hornadys lite recoil and she can handle them. My boy has out grown it and my girl started hunting this year. My daughter is extremely small framed. Heavy .223 loads vs light .243 loads. Managed-Recoil® bullets deliver 2x expansion with over 75% weight retention on shots inside of 50 yards and out to 200 yards. History Introduced in 1955 the .243 Winchester is based on the 7.62x51 military (.308 Winchester) case necked down to .243” (6mm). I make home loads for just about all my rifles. The youth loads developed for hunting approximate pistol velocities in rifles, and therefore, similar performance on game animals. They are easy MOA accurate at 100 yards and he can shoot 50+ at a sitting with no problem. First we must recall that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. 12 soft-recoiling deer loads that will get the job done without punishing the shooter. I’m not so worried on fps as she probably won’t be shooting much over a couple hundred yards. The balance of light recoil and versatility as both a varmint and big game cartridge quickly led to the .243 being one of the most popular rifle chamberings in the world. I found one a Speer manual but was wondering if there is … Now we need to get him a javelina tag. program or calculated from the formula given in the Lyman Reloading Handbook, 43rd Edition. Hodgdon has developed extensive data just for these applications. The thing that got me thinking about it is seeing Nosler do these 2 bullets in their Varmint series. My old standard load for 270 is 54.5 grs of 4350 under a 130gr sierra #1820 BTSP. Get the kid out shooting clays with a 20 gauge, and he'll never notice the recoil of the 243. i have a savage youth 243 rifle for my kids to hunt and shoot. It should not be considered a viable deer cartridge. Handloading the .243 Win allows you to take advantage of the caliber’s versatility by customizing your loads. Even … In a single shot it will be a little harder than in her rifle however because the Rossi is going to be lighter. Trying to work up a light load for a recoil sensitive shooter. She is very hesitant shooting the loads I made for my boy. Virtually every major rifle company (domestic and foreign) offers the .243 Winchester as a standard caliber. It offers light recoil, flat trajectory and can be housed in a short action bolt rifle, and always ranks as one of the most handloaded rifle cartridges. 95 gr sst with max load of h4831sc. This is the first time that I have heard of a 243 recoiling too much. Well the box is almost gone so it’s time to load. She is very hesitant shooting the loads I made for my boy. In fact, at most Michigan ranges, a .22 centerfire with a modern bullet and proper bullet placement crushes deer. ” These loads give enough velocity to break a thrown clay target but take a big bite out of the recoil. If you don't mention the recoil, chances are that he won't notice either. The .243 Winchester again gets the velocity advantage running 440 feet per second faster than its rival, but as with the middle loads, the .25-06 Remington is still more powerful with a 405 ft.lbf lead, a 21.69% energy advantage. He's shot his gun with the .243 barrel on it once, 100 grain Remington core-lokt factory round. Ideal for training, particularly for women and youth shooters, where even a light standard target load can wallop the shoulder hard. Hodgdon recommends taking max loads for H4895 powder and multiplying by 0.6 to get the minimum amout of powder that can be safely used to develope a reduced powder load. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Very light in my Marlin XS7 but gives me .4-.5" 3 shot groups at 100 yards. Just started shooting my new "All weather" Ruger American in 270 win. Tried the 95VLD but accuracy fell off after 250yds. It was renamed the .243 Winchester and chambered in the Winchester Model 70 bolt-action and Model 88 lever-action sporting rifles. The recoil energy and recoil velocity figures are taken from various sources including the recoil nomograph in the Handloader's Digest 8th Edition, various online recoil calculators, the Remington Shoot! For hunting loads only I use 38 grains of IMR 3031, and even that it is a very mild load but at 2800 fps it works great, and when shooting at an animal my daughter doesn't notice the additional recoil. The .243 Winchester is pressure sensitive to changes For deer, loaded up 31.5 IMR-4895 & 100 partition (starting load in nosler book). I made some practice loads for my son with 11.5 gr of trailboss and 100 sierras. 28 gr of IMR 4198 behind a 100 grain Nozler Partition shot very well in my daughters 700 Rem Youth Rifle. 01-31-2008, 09:27 AM #11. Pretty light. producing loads effective to 200 yards with minimal recoil. For example, a .243 in an 8.0-pound rifle with a 100-grain bullet at 2960 fps. None of the three Custom Lite loads I tested produced more than 8 pounds of FRE! Last edited by dk17hmr; 09-19-2008 at 11:30 PM . The .30-30 Winchester reduced recoil loads are also primarily training and plinking loads; they are, at best, marginal deer loads. W, you didn't post your rifle specs. These are not full power deer hunting rounds, but rounds to practice trigger squeeze, breath control, how to hold the rifle, work the bolt, etc. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I am interested in developing a recuded load in a 243 for my grand daughter to start with. I load 17 grains of Blue Dot with 80 grain pointed hollow point boat tail Remington bullets for practice rounds for my soon to be 12 year old son. He's 10 years old and is pretty lightly built. But what, you might wonder, are some suitable “light recoil” cartridges? Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. 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