It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. Description. It was introduced in Update 1.39.. The construction used generic alloys, was almost fully riveted and its weight was rather high, all for the sake of ease of mass production. Two small 17-liter fuel tanks were used to power the starter. Lonewulf Models Conversion Set Resin conversion set with resin nose with 2 Schatton MK103 barrels and 2 … A Tier V aircraft in the recent 1.37 update, the Me 262 has an upfront cost of 1,770,000 . Close. (I'm talking about RB), as prey for younger, faster, jets with better anti-fighter armament while some people wanna nerf the only competitive (and yes overpowered) german jet in that BR range... the Ho229. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. 1. 2.1 Piloting the Aircraft; 2.2 Flying Against; 3 Variant Models. Two main and two extra fuel tanks were used. The high speeds of jet battle push the necessary lead for hitting the target farther in front of the enemy. credit: "Me262, The Production Log" by Dan O'Connell [Classic, 2005]. Charney 2 Charney 2 Aircraftman; Member; 2 12 posts; 3923 Report post; Posted August 19, 2015. However, don't be fooled - this aircraft was the first operational jet fighter. New 30 mm cannons is an interesting upgrade choice as it increases accuracy above 300 meters (350 yds), but the MK 108 will still be unable to hit any at 500 meters (600 yds). A bummer office party to aim. I mean a lot. If you ever get into firing position, never be afraid to lead too much. Me 262 A-1a: Next in Series: None Next in Tree: Me 262 C-2b Heimatschutzer II: A few paragraphs on aircraft history, design, development, employment, and other notable facts. Charney, August 19, 2015 in Fighters. Other countries' first-generation jets include the F-80A-5, Meteor Mk. Back in the 7.7 days I could keep up with Sabres just long enough to get into firing position. Le Messerschmitt Me 262, surnommé Schwalbe (Hirondelle en français) pour les versions de combat ou Sturmvogel (Oiseau de tempête) pour les versions chasseur-bombardier, fut le premier avion de chasse opérationnel à moteur à réaction de l'Histoire, construit par la société allemande Messerschmitt pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. Against them, the 262's turn rate is your only advantage, with the exclusion of the Gloster Meteor. This aircraft is a true heavy fighter in every way. War Thunder > General Discussions > Topic Details. This jet fighter has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. It will never rip at any speed pulling up. Followers 1. Radio equipment included the FuG 16ZY radio (later replaced with the FuG 15) and the FuG 25a IFF set. The left white column is for the two top auto-cannons. Being able to knock out bases (~40) or tanks (direct hit) with these warheads makes a long game much easier to win. Position yourself with either a speed or energy advantage in the enemy's blind-spot (where they would least expect you, attacking with the sun behind you is a good tactic). From War Thunder Wiki. Find a target already engaged in combat and busy or an enemy who is alone. Once enough separation has been gained (3-5 km), regain energy by accelerating or climbing. The Me 262 C-1a Heimatschützer I is a Me 262 A-1a fitted with a rocket booster in its tail. Læms [cs.money] Jul 22, 2018 @ 2:40pm Me 262 A-1/U4 and its annoyng cannon why does it have to be at 6.7? Thus, the MK 108 makes no compromises, only excelling in the "extremes". © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. The 30s are low velocity, but if you learn how to use them, they are very deadly. Me 262A "White 3" at the Dübendorf airfield in Switzerland. 60-80 shots are needed from a very low angle and from a short distance. No, the A-1a/U4 was meant to destroy bombers from long range, hence the big 50mm gun, which unfortunately had a tendency to jam when fired. Anyone got any tips for aiming the x4 civil war velocity cannons in the nose of this thing? Compared to them, the Me 262 is actually quite agile and possesses a speed, roll, and damage output advantage against certain adversaries. Air Art. 111745 “White 5” of JV.44, Munich-Reim, April 1945,y Obfw. The Me 262 is the heaviest of them and thus reigns straight line kinetic energy retention at high speeds. Posted by 2 days ago. RB Air. Against these superior foes, one of the 262's lesser strengths can be used - the turn rate. The first serial variant, the Me 262 A-1a, unofficially known as 'Schwalbe', arrived for flight testing in Lechfeld in July 1944. All four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted on the underside of the upper mounted in the nose of the aircraft. Overall a great plane, it does have a big learning curve, but with enough practice you will enjoy flying it. Design, Development, & History [edit | edit source] Peculiar to note is the ability of the MK 108 to destroy light pillboxes. Deflection shots are an art in this plane and very difficult to do, but they key is to lead wayyy in front of the target. For a few turns, the Schwalbe will easily outmanoeuvre most Korean War jets, apart from the naval carrier jets like the F9F Panther and Seameteor. The Messerschmitt Me 262 was a German jet fighter, fast bomber and reconnaissance aircraft of the WWII era. Eduard “The Rammer” Schallmoser Posted by 2 months ago. Those who are not as skilled at ground attacking still benefit the team; if the match starts to take longer, a ground victory becomes a viable option. The Messerschmitt Me 262… and why would anyone use it in air RB < > Showing 1-12 of 12 comments . The pilot was protected by a 90mm armored glass and 15mm armored plating on the sides and back. Lord Castellan. Jump to: navigation, search VTOL | Rank 5 USSR Log in sign up. Likewise, engaging a different target who has lower energy is an option. Сообщество. Avoid getting shot at though! The 'Schwalbe' climb rate is actually not too bad as stock in 6.0-7.0 games but to climb well you need to be around 450 to 500 km/h for best climb rate which can be visually unappealing due to its low angle of climb. The cannons' stock belts are decent, but the high explosive content increases with the new ammo in Offensive 30 mm. Including them into the upgrade route is not a bad idea. 235. Skins and camouflages for the Me 262 A-1a from live.warthunder.com. 3, Vampire, MiG-9, Kikka and Yak-15. It is intended as an interceptor, climbing very quickly under the power of the booster rocket combined with its two jet engines. Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example: © 2010—2021 by Gaijin Entertainment. posted by NOA_ The 262 was armed with four 30mm MK 108 cannon with 100 rounds per gun for the top pair and 80 rounds per gun for the bottom pair. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with. The amazing rate of fire is exchanged with a very short barrel and small propellant charges, resulting in very bad ballistics. tl;dr: How am I supposed to fly this plane? This in itself can be used to out-run and climb simultaneously as an advantage. Close. 600-800 meters is suggested. Always try to get a drop on the opponent and catch them by surprise rather than a straight-up dogfight. A standard attack looks like the following: These tactics are virtually the same as used by the Fw 190 series and also works on all early jets (Meteor F 3, P-80, MiG-9, F2H, Kikka, R2Y2), etc. The same applies if the last enemy is hiding and the tickets start to count down. Official data sheet - more details about the performance, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Me_262_A-1a&oldid=91932, 15 mm Steel - Between cockpit and fore fuel tank, 16 mm Steel x 2 - Ammunition protection plates, 4 x 30 mm MK 108 cannons (2 x 100 RPG top + 2 x 80 RPG bottom = 360 total). It does lock up a bit at these speeds, so be careful of flying into the ground. As a heavy fighter, the 'Schwalbe' is not nimble, but neither are other first-generation jets. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. My first shot at a custom skin! I find it a very effective bomber destroyer (as it was in real life) I usually try to get above the B-29s and dive on them vertically. It was the world's first mass-produced jet fighter and the first jet aircraft to see combat. The 24 (48 seconds unlock) rockets can destroy light pillboxes, medium tanks and mini bases (~50 rocket impacts). This page was last edited on 25 January 2021, at 19:37. 235. He initially designed the wing using NACA airfoils modified with an elliptical nose section. There was also the low ammo capacity; the version of the Me 410 that carried the same gun had only 22 rounds, 1 round already loaded in the gun. Me-262/A-1a Cannons. Thus, the following is guaranteed: bomber "box formations" fall apart under your heavy rocket bombardments, flying fortresses perish within seconds by this machine's mighty claws, and the unusually low velocity of the German "sledgehammer" MK 108 cannons this aircraft wields will probably drive you insane. Generally, anything 3 years older than the 262 outclasses it. Me 262 A-1a. The MK 108 cannon fires the slowest shells with the greatest bullet drop in the game. 1.1 Performance; 1.2 Armament; 2 Utilization and Tactics. User account menu. When fighting other planes I usually try to be above any plane I engage, so I can have the maximum advantage. Going against other countries would bring out their jets. If the engines catch on fire, throttle down and then shut off the engine (default "i") and go into a dive to gain speed. Thus, Compressor and Engine upgrades have the highest priority. The much smaller 262 would've carried even less, probably about 10-12 rounds. RB Air. Single prototype with a total of six nose mounted guns, two 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, two 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 103 cannons, and two 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 108 cannons. The Me 262 A-1a Schwalbeis a rank V German jet fighter with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). While the historic purpose of the Me 262 was a bomber interceptor, it performs well against other fighters. Making the Me 262 feel itself on its BR since 2013. In dogfights where both aircraft are constantly turning and changing direction, this trait gets even worse. Having allies nearby to assist is also often mandatory in matches like these, as a single 262 bears little threat to Korean War jets. Messerschmitt Me-262 A-1a "Schwalbe" as flown over Germany in 1945. ве это помешает мне сотворить... впрочем, нет. r/Warthunder: This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows … Press J to jump to the feed. As you might guess, the MK 108 is a very bad anti-fighter weapon particularly in a jet to jet combat. 6 comments. Les modes de fonctionnement des moteurs ont été précisés. The Schwalbe has three main possible usages: Find and destroy other fighters. with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). Try alternating barrel rolls to force them to overshoot. The MK 108 has insane damage potential. Against later jets, (Sea Meteor, La-15, F9F), it gets trickier as they can easily neglect any energy advantage you built up due to their superior acceleration. Messerschmitt Me-262 - War Thunder/Ash Arms. Форум; Администрация I would disengage after shooting a burst because most other planes guns will get to you faster than yours. History's call. I have found that its great energy retention is great for catching things like f2h's, f9fs when they are on the deck. Considering the great range of available airspeeds, the cockpit equipment was rather sparse. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Also, don't be afraid about ripping your wings. Posted by 1 month ago. RB Air. First prototype was fitted with a Jumo 210 600 hp and a wooden propeller. Jan 13, 2013 - Explore Craig Blount's board "Me 262 A-1a W.Nr.111711" on Pinterest. The rest of the fuel was housed in the fuselage. Me-262/A-1a Cannons. Me-262/A-1a Cannons. The Messerschmitt Me 262 A-1a «Schwalbe» was a German jet fighter in service with the Luftwaffe near the end of World War II, used specifically in the role of bomber interception. Contents. report. 1. 3.1 Model 1; 3.2 Model 2; 4 Operational … Me 262 A-1A; Do 17 E-1/Z-2/Z-7; Ju 288 C; BV.238; F3H-2; Meteor F Mk.8 Reaper; Modifications du modèle de vol: Ju 87 toutes versions) - Le modèle de vol a été mis à jour. La répartition du carburant entre les réservoirs a été corrigée. See more ideas about messerschmitt me 262, messerschmitt, wwii aircraft. Powered by Invision Community. It’s a riot to fly. Its acceleration was much worse than that of a piston plane, but the Me 262 had an incredible dive rate, which could occasionally threaten going past Mach 1. There may be some problems with news display in specific browser versions. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. The Messerschmitt Me 262 "Schwalbe" was a early turbojet-propelled fighter aircraft, which held the title of the first combat-operational jet fighting, with it first seeing service in mid-1944 within the German Luftwaffe. Timeline for War The Catalogue of Weapons Germany - Me 262 and Variants: Me 262 A-1a/U1. … Перейти к содержимому. All rights reserved. And the F2H.. Go fly a US jet armed with M3 machine guns, then tell me about sparks. One could try, as an experienced pilot, to get the best out of the situation. I tend not to do many headons in the 262 because of the slow velocity guns, but if you want to try to do it, I suggest to aim a bit above the plane you are heading on. The Jumo 004B-1 jet engine (later B-2 and B-3) also housed a 2-stroke Riedel motorcycle engine, used as a starter. I have gone around 980kph before this things starts to redline. By Charney, August 19, 2015 in Fighters. Thus, the following is guaranteed: bomber "box formations" fall apart under your heavy rocket bombardm… Bad acceleration and a high stall speed - usually not the traits wielded by an attacker, but the Schwalbe as two very convincing arguments on its side: R4M rockets and bad matchmaking. Avoid combat with Meteors if possible, however, if engaged with a Sea Meteor or any later variant, do not attempt to dive as it will only make your situation worse. The 30 mm spark a lot, it is not as fast as the other jets, and definitely can't turn. About 2 weeks ago I got the plane, and I just don't know what to do with it. Masse éjecté par second . Me 262 A-1a присутствует в игре с момента начала открытого бета-тестирования War Thunder. 100% Upvoted. Joystick users can try the classic trick of banking the aircraft about 120-180 degrees out of phase of the enemy aircraft with a positive G-load but as usual, they will need to watch their altitude carefully. I BnZ them. Also, the Me 262 can get dragged up to games where it will face Korean War jets. save. I'm the pride of Germany, Messerschmitt 262!! With the second greatest in-game burst mass of 14.52 kg/s (32.01 lbs/s) and the great explosive warhead "Minengeschoss" (mine-shell), this weapon will vaporize aircraft, especially bombers. This saved the test pilot on at least one occasion. Escape any other nearby enemies with a "zoom climb" or a continuation of the approach at your maximum speed. An ace of 39 confirmed victories, its pilot was the Gruppenkommandeur of III./JG 7 "Nowotny". Hans Guido Mutke 's Me 262 A-1a/R7 on display at the Deutsches Museum The project aerodynamicist on the design of the Me 262 was Ludwig Bölkow. I feel like this plane can't keep up with its opposition. The biggest issue of the Schwalbe is its bad acceleration across all speeds. See more ideas about messerschmitt me 262, messerschmitt, luftwaffe. Proceed closer to the enemy aircraft with the energy advantage you hold. This aircraft is a true heavy fighter in every way. Main tanks held 900 liters of fuel, the nose tank had 170 liters and the rear tank held 600 liters. A two-seater tandem trainer version was designated Me 262 … Feb 19, 2013 - ME 262 A-1a W.Nr.110956 Possibly flown by Heinz Bär.